“Should I write an article on Wikipedia?” Blogher as case study

06.17.07

I noticed last week that there was no Wikipedia entry for Blogher, the women-centric blogging conference, blog aggregator and now VC funded company.  Shocked, I twittered that this was the case and my buddy Jeremy Pepper replied asking whether he should write an article.  

This was the second time in a month someone has asked me a question about whether they should be the person to write an article in Wikipedia so I thought I'd share some of my thoughts here.  A Blogher article in particular makes an interesting case study.

Wikipedia has great Search Engine Optimization, can be a good traffic generator and is a good reference source.  People like to have an entry in Wikipedia for their projects for a variety of reasons.  In this case, there ought to be a Wikipedia page about Blogher just so that people can go to this widely trusted source to learn about the project. Who should start writing that page, though?

In general - here are a few things I think are important when considering whether you ought to be the person to write about something in Wikipedia.

1. Conflicts of interest: If you have an antagonistic relationship with something, you probably ought not write about it.  If you have a financial interest in that subject's success, I am of the belief that it may be ok for you to write about it so long as you practice...
2. Disclosure: Make sure your user page identifies who you are and what you do for a living.  Being open makes a world of difference.
3. Value add: In addition to a neutral point of view, make sure your post adds important value to the Wikipedia community by being truly informative.  Also, the more you have contributed to Wikipedia in general the more any specific contribution will be respected.  
4. Time invested: In some cases, like if a PR agent is writing about their client, I would recommend that in addition to disclosing the fact that you are a PR agent on your user profile page, you should also consider editing the article live in Wikipedia.  Multiple edits over time, even if from the same user, demonstrate time spent on the article in Wikipedia and help demonstrate respect for the platform.

To answer Jeremy's question about Blogher I first searched in Technorati for his name and the word Blogher, to see what his relationship with the group was like.  He had written some supportive blog posts about the event, which received favorable comments from some people I understand to be leaders in the Blogher community.  I know that Blogher is generally supportive of participation by men.  I also did a google search for this query: site:http://blogher.org "for wikipedia."  I found one forum thread about the fact that there is no Wikipedia article for Blogher.  The conversation seemed supportive of the idea, people were just wondering who should write it and how it should be done.  The thread seemed to taper off without any clear answers for that question.  That lead me to believe that there wasn't any clear reason why the Blogher community did not want an article about Blogher in Wikipedia.

I suggested that Jeremy write one up and post it while logged into a Wikipedia account that was clearly tied to him personally.  That way people could see who was responsible and contact him to discuss it if they wanted to. He hasn't written that article yet, but that's ok. Eventually someone will write it and I think this is a good opportunity to talk about these questions.

If he does write this article, here's how I suggest this and other articles begin.  In addition to maintaining a "neutral point of view" and sticking to the facts, it's important that an article be long enough to satisfy the community of Wikipedians who dislike very short articles.  I've had articles be deleted because they weren't substantive enough.

Since Blogher is an active online community there's an opportunity to make sure that participants there know that a new Wikipedia entry about them has been posted.  Emailing them or posting to the Blogher forum could be good ways to let them know. Once they know about the article, they will have a chance to edit it as they see fit and help watch in case this new article gets nominated for deletion, as does happen frequently.

Finally, I'd suggest that if you add a new entry to Wikipedia that you check back daily for the first week after posting it to see if any conversation about the article has been posted or if the article has been nominated for deletion.  You can subscribe to the RSS feed for your entry's history, but there doesn't appear to be any way to track by RSS whether your article has been nominated for deletion.

If it is nominated for deletion, there will be a discussion and vote.  In that case, you can let people know and provide the URL for the voting page so they can participate in the conversation and respond to any concerns that the Wikipedia community may have.

Those are some of my thoughts about writing articles on Wikipedia.  There's no guarantee of success in Wikipedia, but if you make a good-faith effort to contribute value to the community (with any interests of your own weighing less heavily than the interests of the community) then odds are good.  You'll learn more about online social media from the experience of engaging, so in most cases I say yes - write that article.  

I'm going to email a link to this post over to one of my Wiki-loving buddies and see if we can flesh out answers to these questions all the more.

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9 Responses to ““Should I write an article on Wikipedia?” Blogher as case study”

  1. Curt Says:

    Hey Man, I disagree a bit with your take. It was too long to post here, so I made with the jibber-jabber over hnyah: http://morphemetales.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/should-you-write-your-own-wikipedia-entry/.

  2. Taran Rampersad Says:

    I stopped contributing to the Wikipedia. The deletion policy is largely subjective - and not subjective to what *you* think, but what the administrators think. There is no way to say that they have done more bad than good - it is all subjective - but let me say it this way:

    If you think Wikipedia is a democratic information source, it is impossible to verify that. If you think that Wikipedia is skewed in what is there, you end up in revert wars with people who quote policy which gets into the time sink of policy interpretation.

    Do yourself a favor. Save yourself the drama.

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  4. llywrch Says:

    This is a perennial problem on Wikipedia: writing about something that you have an undeniable financial stake in. (For my opinion on the matter, the curious can see what I wrote about it months ago on my blog.)

    But to address Marshall’s concern, there is a group of Wikipedians who interpret the policy about avoiding all conflicts of interest strictly: they don’t want people editting their articles, even to fix minor things like a date of birth, marital status, or where that person went to school. They insist that this is rock-solid Wikipedia policy, when (in my experience) most of the established Wikipedians only care if the subject is inserting PR-style puffery into the article (e.g., “Whoosit Inc. makes the world’s best widgets”).

    Speaking from my 4+ years of experience on Wikipedia, I still haven’t figured out a sure-fire way of dealing with these people. Finding an ally amongst the more established Wikipedians is always a good first step, although I regret I have to recommend the need for this at “the encyclopedia anyone can edit”.

    Geoff

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  6. avi Says:

    Why write to Wikipedia if you can blog about it?

  7. Liz Henry Says:

    How funny - I just wrote one last week in a moment of creative procrastination. Also because I went looking for it, and it wasn’t there. I tried to model it somewhat after the entries for SXSWi and Bloggercon. Do please go edit it if you like… I didn’t have time to keep improving it or to start filling in the names of the keynote speakers, who are notable for keynoting at a large and well known tech conference.

  8. Liz Henry Says:

    And yes I am part of BlogHer, but I think it is fine for me to start a page. I listed some links that should prove notability. One thing I’ll go back and do if no one else chips in — will do the references and sourcing properly.

    Probably a policy of notability for BLP will develop - especially for bloggers. For now I figure adhering to the BLP policies should be fine. And yet it remains difficult to keep significant women in Wikipedia. To that end I am following advice to put in events and awards first; then backfill the people speaking at those events and winning those awards, since that participation in the public sphere and that kind of recognition is clear evidence of notability.

  9. Jeremy Wright Says:

    We had ours pulled a year ago or something, because we weren’t “prominent enough”. I guess someone could try again, but typically deletion reinstatements get treated very harshly unless there is a huge reason to recreate the page.

    Thankfully most of the principles in b5 have kept their personal pages ;-)

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